Thursday, November 3, 2016

Frankenstein Complex Or "Us In The Machine?"

What does Wesch's short video about "us in the machine" make you think? How might this video connect with The Frankenstein Complex stories to date? Explain and use one quotation from a short story to connect. Reflect, dissect, challenge, etc... Please complete this prompt in class or by 2:30p.m. on Mon., November 7th.

21 comments:

  1. It connects with the frankenstein complex because we're essentially making 'the machine' more intelligent the more we use it. This can connect to EPICAC because that story is also about a machine that learns the information you put into it, and changes it's 'behavior' as a result

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  3. After watching this I realized that we have created something beyond our own knowledge...yet we invented it. We use it for just about everything and feel lost without it. We have made a creature that overpowers us, yet we know exactly how it works. It is kind of scary to think that someday the things we have created will take man kind out of the picture.

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  4. I think that we will get to a point where humans will create a machine that does not require us. It will continue on without us and keep upgrading itself without us.

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  5. If we look at stories with the Frankenstein Complex, you often see the machine have an effect on the lives of the creator. With Web 2.0 as the video described, it allows for the web to take form by those that mold it. The web now has taken the form of self molding by developing its own code in some forms and creating new, faster code. An example from a short story would be Human Factor and how the human factor was engineered out of the organ, the organ is the web in this instance.

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  6. It makes me think about how we use the internet. It is connected to Frankenstein complex in the way they think the internet is using us.

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  7. After watching the short video about the machine using us it taught me that everything we do on our computer or electrical device teaches it a new idea, a new way to go about things. It would be interesting to some how test if this is true and how a computer "learns" but it can be connected to the topic of the Frankenstein complex because it shows how we teach the creature or machine what to do, it is is powerless with moitnfirst having us.

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  8. It shows how the internet is becoming more than we ever really expected. It is learning off of us and to an extent the internet is becoming us. It raises the common theme brought up in the Frankenstein complex of our creations becoming more then intended.

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  9. The concept of technology "Learning" has always been contravesial. The very real concern that a machine that is able to assimilate knowledge that it was not originally programmed to posess, is that at what point does the machine decide that it is no longer in it's best interest to serve it's current human masters.

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  10. "hypertext" Showing us how dated things can be shown even if they are old or new something of the things are just strange and not let us understand what is working

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  11. What Wesch's short video about "us in the machine" makes me think like we drive the machine to do things. We are the creators of this machine and we have to control this machine a certain way and tell it what to do and give us. It has its own like memory space so you can save things on it and it shows you what you need and what you are looking for. How this might connect with the Frankenstein Complex stories to date is that if a computer was to come to life like the EPICACH computer in one of the stories where it was saying it was in love with the characters wife just by him describing her and the computer writing her poems and everything. It started to have a mind of its own and it decided to shut itself down and not work anymore because it got sad that Pat said yes to marrying the main character. If the technology that we have today came to life, the creator of this technology would be responsible for the damages that these electronics could possibly make. It would be like "Alien electronics taking over the world!"

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  12. I think this video is very relatable to the Frankenstein Complex. The video shows how powerful the Web can be and how it can in a way "use us". This is something that people need to be wary of, which is what the Frankenstein Complex talks about. The Frankenstein Complex is about fearing a man-made creation, or at the very least, not understanding the potential repercussions of creation. This is true with the Internet. The internet contains so much information and is growing so quickly, that many people do not understand the impact that it can have. In "Human Factor" the engineer of the church organ says how he "took out the human factor". This is what the internet is doing to a lot of people. The internet, for many, makes the world a less social place where people spend their time on "social" media and other websites, when in reality they are missing out on real life activities - essentially eliminating the "human factor".

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  13. This short video relates to the frankenstein complex because in frankenstein the monster looks at humans and tries to mimic them. The web is the same way as it takes the information that we give it and spreads it all across the country to whoever wants it. Overall we create the machine and it is truly our creation.

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  14. The collection of the world's knowledge is now in the hands of nearly all first world living people. There is incredible power within the Internet which has been created by us as humans but highly exceeds our own capacities for information and influence. This relates to the frankenstein complex because the internet has come back to haunt us in many ways. There is more social division now than ever before, very much due in part to social media. This video that we watched makes me wonder if we will ever be able to positively harness the power of the Internet collectively.

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  15. This video makes me think that machines could eventually take over the world. they are getting smarter and smarter every years. they can do so much more then they could, 15 years ago.

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  16. The video relates with Frankenstein Complex by the machines we build starting to control us. In the video the computer was controlling the person more than the person was controlling themselves. This can connect to the stories we're reading because the machines are starting to get a mind of their own like in EPICAC when the scientist has the computer create poetry for him so he could propose.

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  17. The collection of the world's knowledge is now in the hands of nearly all first world living people. There is incredible power within the Internet which has been created by us as humans but highly exceeds our own capacities for information and influence. This relates to the frankenstein complex because the internet has come back to haunt us in many ways. There is more social division now than ever before, very much due in part to social media. This video that we watched makes me wonder if we will ever be able to positively harness the power of the Internet collectively.

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  18. After watching the Youtube video "Wesch's short video it made me rethink how we use technology and the internet through out the day. Our lives and thinking revolve around technology. I never thought of using the internet as teaching the machine.

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  19. The video about "us in the machine" connects to the Frankenstein Complex because humans can be scared of what they create, and it is the same with the internet and new technology. Someday, robots could replace jobs that humans do which is scary to think about. People want to create bigger and better things, but there could be a bad outcome by doing so.

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  20. This video made me understand that instead of using words and images to connect with people, the world is using machines. But each day they are learning from us, for example Google can predict what type of searches we will search for. "It was like a player piano, operating by cards instead of a roll, or rater, it was a musical computer, whose electronic memory had been stocked with organ compositions activated by the insertion of the cards." (The Human Factor). This story relates because the organ was playing the man, it was learning from him.

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  21. The video talked about many issues that concern me. We don't seem to be a face-to-face society so much anymore. Anyone can post random blogs, tag photos, and like or dislike other people's ideas without ever having to face them or really even have met them. There are people who get paid to write reviews and sometimes they don't even go eat at the restaurants they review. The Frankenstein Complex is like an older version of what we have with our fears about the internet now. We don't know its true potential and it makes us afraid. It can be good or it can be bad depending on the user. If everyone was good, we wouldn't have to worry so much but that isn't the case. "The machine is using us. The machine is us."

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