Monday, April 18, 2016
Time Travel And "City On the Edge Of Forever?"
Please write a critique of The City On The Edge Of Forever using the Traveling Through Time and/or Carl Sagan Ponders Time Travel
articles. Challenge at least one idea within your notes that the
article seems to debunk or challenge. Please defend your response and
use quotations to support. This blog response is due by 2:30p.m. on Mon., April 25th.
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I didn't like how the fate of everything depended on the life of Edith. I think that the adventure should of had another element like them having to go through different eras to find McCoy. Not saying that the way was written I just think that in the end it could have been better. All in all, I enjoyed watching the episode
ReplyDeleteOne thing about the time travel is that everyone seems to retain their memory even thought in theory time should have already changed because of their being there. It also seems that only the Dr. was out of his mind. Shouldn't Spock and the Captain have been affect as well. To be fair, I did miss the first day of the movie so that part could have been explained.
ReplyDeleteThe doctor accidentally injected himself with some type of serum that made go insane.
DeleteThis episode kept me on the edge of my seat, but I didn't like how the girl was the deciding factor on how the world would end up. There should have been another major decision in the film that would change the fate of the world. Also, it would've been awesome if they chased McCoy throughout history (like the Middle Ages), not just in 20th century America.
ReplyDeleteOne idea that I noticed about time travel in The City On the Edge Forever is the idea of having everything the exact way it is in the past. It is like the Butterfly effect. If the Capt. let the girl live, then 10000 other people would die and the enterprise wouldn't exist. The idea of love I think is just another element to add to the show. I don't think there really was love, just lust and what I notice about other Sci Fyi films is that when someone comes back to the past, they fall in love and then threaten the lives of others. I think it is pretty selfish of people to do that.
ReplyDeleteI though that things came a bit too easy for the men. The one woman who made all the difference just "happened" to intercept all three of the men. I found the story a bit predictable but a part of me was hoping the captain would save edith and take her back with them.
ReplyDeleteWith "The City on The edge of Forever" is that it really doesn't do anything with the grandfather paradox. Sure they said that there might be a problem if she were to live but they never showed the real outcome, the after. With the Grandfather paradox stories they always shows what happen after the story. Also the idea of the butterfly affect is basically a net zero in the video. They go back in the past and change many things drink many objects talk and scare many people and go back way into the future and nothing changes. little things should change alot. Specialy with big amount of time.
ReplyDeleteThis episode certainly was a good representation of time travel. Although, I do think if it went through different decades and went deeper into the kid of changes that would have occurred if the girl didn't die would have made it more interesting.
ReplyDeleteI feel that if they made McCoy possibly alter a more important event in history, so that it would be easier for audiences to understand that he had to be stopped from altering said events. As it was, I felt that McCoy's intervention could have gone either way, be it he stopped Edith's death or he didn't. If it were a major event he stopped, Kirk and Spock wouldn't have had to waste so much time trying to discern whether or not they should stop McCoy.
ReplyDeleteIn the episode "City on the Edge of Forever" in the Star Trek series, Spock and Captain Kirk travel back to the 1920's, and they follow Dr. Bones after a medical incident. I think there activity and actions in the past contradict the common theories of modern Time Travel. Yet the story still tied in well with the series and its themes.
ReplyDeleteIn "City on the Edge of Forever" Spock and Kirk travel back in time where they had one goal to make sure Edith's fake was carried out. I feel that McCoy's invention could have worked in the favor of anyone. I'd think it'd be interesting if the movie went through the (Grandfathers Paradox) or different time periods to show different out comes of the successes/failures of Edith, Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Overall was a good time travel representation.
ReplyDelete"City on the Edge of Forever" though not perfect, was a decent representation of time travel, at least at the level that was typically imagined during that time. Obviously the "time warden" that the crew of the Enterprise happened to come across on a random planet seems rather ridiculous, but this is how ideas were portrayed in many other early Star Trek episodes as well. Though the means that Spock and Kirk used to travel back in time was rather absurd, however, the same concept of time travel used in this episode is still wrestled with by scientists today.
ReplyDeleteIn "City on the Edge of Forever" I noticed how Dr.McCoy changed the future instantly as soon as he jumped into the time traveler rock. Also after Spock and Captain Kirk saved the doctor and returned one of their crew members said "back so soon?" even though it's been a couple of days since Spock and Kirk have been gone. I think that the episode portrayed somewhat of an idea of the Grandfather Paradox with time our main characters. I feel that the reason Kirk, Spock, and Dr.McCoy returned so early was because the crew members are in a different planet far off in a different galaxy making a time difference for them.
ReplyDeleteIn "Sitting on the Edge of Forever," I noticed when Dr.McCoy came back to that time period and met that homeless person, Dr,McCoy passed out, and the homeless person took the item he used to time travel. But if the star ship Enterprise doesn't exist and they are in a different timeline, where does that homeless person end up?
ReplyDeleteThe film was thoroughly entertaining and captivating. There is not much that James Kirk and Mr. Spock can not accomplish with their truly admirable bravery and moral ambition. This being said, I think the main problem with the time travel in the movie was the fluency of the spoken English and rhetoric. Two groups of English speakers from thousands of years apart would have much more trouble trying to communicate.
ReplyDeleteIn the film "City on the Edge of Forever", time travel is presented, yet seems too unrealistic (even as unrealistic as time travel itself is). It doesn't make sense that all of history would depend on one person that doesn't seem very influential, in this case, Edith. Also, it's confusing because you would think that Kirk would remember meeting Edith if he did so in the past, yet he was just meeting her for the first time.
ReplyDeleteThe "City on the Edge of Forever" displayed a seemly accurate representation of time travel and the Grandfather Paradox. The story depends mainly on whether the humanitarian dies or lives. I was surprised that Mr. McCoy actually wanted to save her, when in the beginning I believed he would go crazy and kill her accidentally somehow. I am wondering where that other homeless person went when he got McCoy's time travel object. The concept used in this episode is very confusing, but this episode helped me understand more about the idea of time travel.
ReplyDeleteI did miss the first day, but I think the Star Trek “The City On The Edge of Forever” was very good. I think that this episode sort of relates to the movie “Back to the Future” because of how they both have that theme of The Butterfly Effect. If you change just a small thing in the past, there could be a very big change in the future.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that the theory Spock had put out there actually made sense. That the girl had to die for the future to become normal again and that if Captain Kirk tried to save her it would change the future drastically. But it is a creative idea and could possibly be true. Personally I like that idea.
ReplyDeleteI like how the episode was super complex in terms of time travel, When ever there is a time travel movie it seems they don'y include consequences on the actions they make. So Spock saying the girl had to die in order for them to get back to the ship was pretty interesting, and I was surprised that Kirk was able let her die.
ReplyDeleteI think one idea that seems confusing to me, is that if they truly could have changed the future dramatically by changing an event, but would their already being there in the past have an effect on the future and change what they know to be true. They made relationships and had interactions with people during that time period that could have effected their future, especially the close relationship he seemed to have developed with the girl in that time period. It seems like anything changed in the past could have some kind of effect on the future and even to themselves and what they know to be accurate about their past and the world's past.
ReplyDeleteI do not feel like in this movie that they necessarily had to kill Edith. if anything they could have told her that her actions would jot be for the greater good of the world. Unfortunately they had to let her get killed by the car just to ensure their future of the planet earth.
ReplyDeleteI do not feel like in this movie that they necessarily had to kill Edith. if anything they could have told her that her actions would jot be for the greater good of the world. Unfortunately they had to let her get killed by the car just to ensure their future of the planet earth.
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