Monday, December 1, 2014
Time Travel And "The City On The Edge Of Forever"
Please write a critique of The City On The Edge Of Forever using the Traveling Through Time and/or Carl Sagan Ponders Time Travel
articles. Challenge at least one idea within your notes that the
article seems to debunk or challenge. Please defend your response and
use quotations to support. This blog response is due by 2:30p.m. on Fri., Dec. 5th.
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Based off of Carl Sagan's article of time travel, I saw it to be contradicting to the episode of Star Trek. Sagan talked about possible ways of time travel such as traveling into the future and the past and described them in as possibly unfeasible or only attainable to a certain extent. He says that time travel would have to parallel to the laws of physics. Sagan states A and B are so far apart that at the speed of light it would take much longer than a generational time or two to get there as measured back on world A. Instead, you have a kind of tunnel that goes through an otherwise inaccessible third dimension and connects A and B. Time travel is an interesting thought but how close are we it actually becoming a reality. It could be a completely navigable technology or a completely unreal outcome in our lifetimes, or the rest of time.
ReplyDeleteBased on Carl Sagan's article about time travel, in my opinion I think it is very similar to the episode of Star Trek. Both saw the different outcomes, the causes and the effects that can take place during time travel. Going in different universes. Time travel has always been interesting about how it could change over the years and it shows in both the story and Star Trek
ReplyDeleteCarl Sagan's article was kind of the same as the Star Trek episode. Sagan explained that human history might be destroyed if people go back in time and mess something up. The only way to solve this problem is making a paradox, which prevents the possible outcomes from happening. Such as the world being destroyed. In Star Trek, Edith is supposed to die in order to prevent a catastrophe on Earth. Captain Kirk and Spock have to prevent Mccoy from saving Edith because she was the focal point of human history.
ReplyDeleteHaving read Carl Sagan's article on time travel, I can say that the episode of Star Trek and said article are very similar in the aspect that when crew of the USS Enterprise travel back in time to find McCoy, the present is altered. As Carl Sagan's article says, if something is altered in the past, it can have repercussions in the present and future.
ReplyDeleteCarl Sagan's article on time travel is very similar to Stat Trek because they both focus on the effects of time travel and how it might destroy history. If they alter the past, it can have bad outcomes in the future. In the movie, McCoy wants to save Edith but in order for it to have a the right outcome, she has to die.
ReplyDeleteBoth the article and the Star Trek episode talk about causality and a bit of a butterfly effect. That one event will have a big effect on the future. While that definitely was the case in the episode I find it odd that more things didn't effect their future. Sagan seems pretty enthusiastic on the idea of causality in time travel, he would probably think that the crew would Change more than what they actually did in the episode.
ReplyDeleteThe City On The Edge Of Forever is an idea that it may be possible to move back into time and relive history in which then creates the possibility to disrupt the way history was supposed to plan out.The article and the movie seemed very similar in ways such as the simple idea or reversing time and releasing the power to control time and history.
ReplyDeleteBased on Carl Sagans article it is pretty much the same as the star teak episode. They both have the same problem where someone goes into the past and changes the history of history itself. In the movie the whole history of earth is changed when McCoy saves a peace activist and she delays Americas joining in the Second World War. This makes all of the space travel change and the two characters hve to go back and save time.
ReplyDeleteI would challenge the fact that in the city on the edge of forever the crew is in a timeless place which can't exist as we understand it. scotty says "you only left a moment ago" when the three get back. also it seems impossible their theory of the electro waves or whatever it seems... illogical
ReplyDeleteAfter reading Carl Sagan's article, I would say that it is similar to Star Trek by a certain extent. Although both discuss the idea of time travel, Sagan believes we need more evidence to discover if time travel is even possible. Star Trek had characters who used time travel to save their loved ones. Sagan says he has mixed feelings about the possibilities, whereas time travel movies show how it could be possible in the future with advanced technology. He considered the causes and effects of time travel when he said, “But the idea that going into the past could wipe me out so that I would have never lived is somewhat disquieting.” Similarly in Star Trek, time travel had an effect on everyday life because McCoy wanted to save Edith when I found out she would die in the future. Seeing what will happen to us or others in the future can shatter our lives forever.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching The City on the Edge of Forever. and reading Carl Sagan's view on time travel I would say that their concepts are very similar. They both believe that time travel in possible and is within the laws of physics. They also say that the past can be altered if time travel was possible. What Sagan Debunks is it can be reset like in the film. He says that time would be altered anytime someone goes into the past kind of like a butterfly effect
ReplyDeleteAfter reading Carl Seagan's article all about time travel I think it is similiar to Star Trek because it is both in the future and time travel. In Star Trek to get to the past they had to let Edith die to find what they were looking for.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading both Carl Seagan's article and watching the Star Trek episode I have concluded that they both theorize time travel in its basic form makes sense and that you could change the past however I think that time would have already been changed given that for time travel to be possible the future would have also needed to happen or you wouldn't be able to go to it.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the articles by Carl Sagan I think that his point on time travel is very valid in how it could be possible eventually but I also think there are some issues with that being developed. People could use time travel for going to the past and changing something important and ultimately altering the future to what they believe should be like.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the Carl Sagan Ponders Time Travel articles, it is clear that actual logic and physics concepts challenge the pop culture and science fiction views of time travel as viewed in The City On The Edge of Forever
ReplyDeleteThe City On The Edge of Forever and the Carl Sagen articles have a similar concept, which is that if you time travel to the past you will change the future. However, the article are more skeptical of time travel and its possibilities.
ReplyDeleteCarl Sagan touches on some good points that help to enforce some of The city on the Edge of Forever's themes. The idea of the past being extremely fragile in changeability and the tiniest event can change everything makes sense.
ReplyDeleteCarl Sagan produces good points throughout the article that interfear with some of the themes portrayed in the Star Trek episode. For example Carl Sagan says that traveling through time would take much longer than a single instance and in the episode they go through long periods of time in a matter of seconds.
ReplyDeleteI agree with George Hays he adds a true statement. Science fiction is impossible ideas thought of by brilliant people. You never know what its going to be like in the future. Science fiction can take any idea and blow it up into the future to a somewhat attainable future.
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