Monday, November 23, 2009

Past And Future Soldiers? What About The Present?

How do The Man Who Came Early and Soldier compare as Paradox/Time Travel stories?  What elements pique your interest, connect the stories, and what do they force you to contemplate?  Please complete this blog response by Monday, November 30th.

20 comments:

  1. The Man Who Came Early and Soldier compares with time travel/paradox stories because they both add elements of time travel such as, in The Man Who Came Early, the person going from the present to the past and how it changes things for the future, and, in Soldier, the soldier from the future who comes to the present and how that would change things for the future.

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  2. With the two stories the element of unknown changes a little with the sci-fi piece. With soldiere there is some room to mess with the future of humanity but with The man who came early they have to follow some basic ideas of what present day is like. A big piece though with both pieces was the items the men brought from the future and explaining it in the current time. With all time traveling pieces the technology is obviously going to be a big part and thats what these writings made me contemplate. Overall though two good stories of which i did enjoy

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  3. The Man Who Came Early depicts a man from our time going back to the days of vikings, and is a pretty uninfluential when it comes to the fate of the future. With Soldier, however, it is a man from the distant future coming back to our time and supposedly changes the entire future of warfare. Though, if the soldier apparently prevented war as he onew it by telling his story, than the future he came from never would have existed, nor would he, and nor would any of his memories. Therefore, he couldn't really have prevented war,because if he had never existed, he never could have gone back to prevent war, therefore war WOULD happen and he WOULD exist. Thus, a paradox.

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  4. These two stories want us to to start worrying about if it could be possible that ugliness is inevitable in our futures with war after war which seems to be the only thing which will never stop evolving. These stories are also obviously copying off one another with the use of a cribbing style of method writing. Too bad the loriginality of both pieces has been shared within the two pieces making them so neat to read in the first place. You start to think sure these guys will change the future now but if they truly had done that would they still be in thier own past? Or because we feared so much of this new warfare that we eveolved and fell into anyway.

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  5. They both ended up in different times and are thrown into the past. They are both in a time period in which they have heard of and they have knowledge to influence the past which could change the future. In The Man Who Came Early, he is rejected from society and considered an enemy because of his weapon advancements. This is how the Terminator came to be.

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  6. In both stories both men were thrown into the different time period and didn't choose to be in that time. Both were solders and trapped in a time where their skills are not useful and can't fully function in that time period. In the stories the people seem to easily except that they are from the future. I think that if that were to happen then it would have a ripple effect on the future because they were not suppose to know about most of those things until a later point in time.

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  7. The Man Who Came Early and Soldier both tell stories of soldiers who are transported into the past, depicting the influence of their more modernized technologies on past societies. In the Man Who Came Early, a soldier from the 1950s is sent back nearly 1000 years into the time of the Vikings. He is accepted into their society, but when his possession of a gun upsets the members of the town, he is quickly disowned from the society. In Soldier, which is the basis of the Terminator, a man from far in the future brings weapons of unheard of power into the past. After realizing the threat these weapons pose, and the changes that occurred in future society that require the use of such weapons, the soldier, Quarlo, is used as in a campaign to end warfare all together. These different reactions show the contrast between the societies in which the soldiers unwillingly find themselves as a result of accidental time travel.

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  8. "The Man Who Came Early" and "Soldier" both have the element of time travel, but don't deal much with the Grandfather Paradox. In the introduction of "Soldier", it even says they are stories about how a soldier is taken out of his own time period and put into another one. It is different, though, in "Soldier" because the man is from "tomorrow" and is returned to "today." "The Man Who Came Early" is about a soldier who is taken from "today" and is then returned to "yesterday." I feel that time travel made these stories more interesting than most, but more confusing as well.

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  9. In both time travel stories it deals with a soldier going from his time to a different time period.I think that in the story Soldier the thing that interest me the most was in the story how the soldier reacted to being shot with a gun from our time and when the cop hit him. I thought that this part of the story was the best part because it really showed how lost he was.

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  10. The interesting thing about the man who came early and soldier is that in the stories, there are characters that encounter foreign objects in a different time that they are not familiar with. The objects are simple things to us; but to them are different and strange. For example in the man who came early, the characters in the past show the characters from the future a penny which they are not familiar with. Its funny how they describe the penny and wonder what it is used for.

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  11. I found it amusing how useless a modern man is in The Man Who Came Early. Was he really so much of a pansy that he couldn't do brunt manual labor? I also like how Soldier forces us to think about what the future of wars will be. We keep coming up with more and more brutal ways to kill more and more people, what's to say our future won't end up like Qarlos's? Will we one day use radiation to liquify a soldier's organs?

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  12. The two stories "The Man Who Came Early" and "Soldier" have many similarities as well as differences. They are similar in that in both, each of the time travelers has someone who believes their story and someone who doesn't. Also, both of the time travelers are very bitter about where they are, they will do anything to go back home. They each think that the time they are from is better than the time they have arrived at. They are different in that in "The Man Who Came Early", the future is seemingly better than the time he has traveled to, and in "Soldier", the future is something they should fear and try to prevent from occuring.

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  13. "It was all some sort of vague, formless nightmare to Quarlo... This was something else, some other situation, in which he was lost..." (The Soldier, p. 222)

    "A hundred years ago!" "What year is this?" (The Man Who Came Early, p. 201)

    What interests me most about these two particular stories is how both of the main characters are stuck in bewilderment. They cannot understand the change that is going on because they don't even know how they got there, which in turn piques interest in the character but also anxiety and frustration. Time traveling back the past or forward to the future makes characters analyze every minute of where they are living, and they become very observative about the world they are surrounded in. No time period is exactly like the other, which makes it a very interesting area to cover or draw attention to.

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  14. "The Man Who Came Early," and "Soldier" can both compare as paradox and/or time travel stories. They both deal with traveling to either the future or the present; and the effect on how that can change what happens in the future. For example, in the Man who came early, it discusses how the person going from the present to the past can change the future by what he/she does. It also deals with the amount of influence that person has on the time he is traveling to. In "The Man Who Came Early, the influence is not that strong when looking on the future, however in "Soldier," the influence is very strong in how the soldier apparently prevented war but if he did, the future he came from would not have existed.

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  15. There are several similarities between The Man Who Came Early and Soldier, but there is only one that major difference that force me contemplate time travel. "The Man Who Came Early" is a story a soldier plucked from his own time. "Soldier" takes a man from tomorrow and brings him to today. It made me curious to know which option would be harder to adapt to? leaving your own time and going to the future, or leaving the future and going back to a less sophisticated era. I decided that leaving the future and going back in time would be more difficult because you would have to live without some of the technology that you might have in the future.

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  16. The stories make you think what the future will be like. In The Man Who Came Early it made me think about what people back then thought the future would be like and how different it ended up being because they talked about how unrealistic his rifle was because of the price of lead. Both of the stories the people where baffled by the weapons and what was the reason they where so different from there current weapons. Both of the soldiers stood out from the every day people because of their uniforms, the weapons changed so drastically there for the means of protection were very different.

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  17. In the stories "The Man Who Came Early" and "Solider", both of the time travelers come from the future. In The Man Who Came Early", the traveler comes from present times to Icelandic times of the vikings. In "Solider", the strange visitor comes from the far far future to the present. In "The Man Who Came Early", the visitor is useful and has knowledge of many new technologies. But, because the vikings have a completely different life system, his intelligence and ideas don't benefit them greatly.
    "Soilder" features a man who comes from a land of mind-blowing gadgets and crazy technology to moderately advanced technology. Although he is an amazing warrior, all he knows how to do is fight. Because of this, the scientists have an extremely hard time finding a place for him to belong in society; he ends up barely being worth a tactician.
    Both of these stories show that technology and intelligent people can become useless if they come at the wrong time. This, to me is evidence that there is meaning to life and a system or organizer that people, things, time, and events adhere to.

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  18. Both stories involve their character travelling to a time before their own. In The Man Who Came Early, the character comes from present day and is returned to the past as he encounters viking-like people on Greenland. In Soldier, Qarlo starts in the future in the middle of what seems to be a mental-based war but he is transported back in time to what seems to be present day America.

    The main element these stories seem to address and force me to contemplate the most is the idea of the Grandfather Paradox. It's tough to think about what Qarlo or the narrator from the other story are changing about the future or if they are even changing anything at all because of the theory that involves time as a circular, cyclical process. This would technically rule out the idea of the Grandfather Paradox because what is happening has actually already happened.

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  19. in the story " soldier" the end leaves the reader with questions, if Qarlo is in his past warning the world about future war and its horrors wouldn't he not be in the past because thee war that sent him back would have never happened. this bring up the question is our destiny set or do we control it and if it is then is time travel possible if the past present and future is already written and cannot be changed. The story the man who came early is similar in the fact that they are both about time traveling soldiers that go back in time so they have more technology than is available in that time period.

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  20. I think that both of these stories are interesting because they show how much can change over a short period of time. The soldiers in "The Man Who Came Early" and "Soldier" experience both difficulty and wonder in the new time period they were placed in. It was hard for them because the people of those times did not have the technology or experience that the soldiers had. It was interesting because they got to see what life was like for people before their time. It makes me wonder how different life was for my parents and grandparents than it is for me?

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