Monday, November 18, 2013
Too Complex? Are You Thinking About Frankenstein?
Based upon your short story readings, the introductory material, Frankenstein excerpts,the Robot Ad project, The Great Mutato, and individual assessment, what are some conclusions that you might proclaim regarding The Frankenstein Complex? Explain, defend, argue, and think. Response is due by 2:30p.m. today
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Inhuman things that attempt to be human are seriously whack yo. while they may succesfully act like normal human beings, the fact that they are not human will drive humans to resent, fear, and hate them
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex is the theory that nonhuman objects cannot coexist in our society because of our own fear of the creations we make. We can handle simple or even very advanced robots but as soon as they can start thinking for themselves, everyone will question their safety.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex is probably the strangest topic that we have dealt with this semester. I think humans are scared of what they can create, but still test the limits when it comes to creating something. They want to see how far they can push the boundaries of science, usually because they want to be recognized for their creation. Sometimes it's more about the fame than the actual science, and because of this they do not think about the consequences.
ReplyDeleteSome conclusions I have about the Frankenstein Complex is, once again, the fear of not only the creation by the creator but the fear of the creator by the creation. I think that in The Great Mutato it shows how sometimes the creator is much more cynical than the actual creation. Innocence plays a role in the Frankenstein Complex, showing up in the Robot Ad Project, The Great Mutato and EPICAC, where the creation really is simply innocent. I think that the idea that the creator is always the one that should fear the creation is a false way of viewing the fear in these stories.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex is the fear or hatred of a being/machine created by man. Although there is also a fear or hatred of the creator. In reality, it's really the creator who should get most of the blame for whatever their creation does. After all, they are the ones who are responsible for bringing such a creature into the world so therefore they should be responsible. The monsters in each story all seem to share a sort of human emotion. They have the desire to become human, to be something other than themselves. While others go out of their way to get what they want and some do not, they all have the want to become something they won't get hated for being.
ReplyDeleteA conclution that I came to is that in life there are things that people create that may or may not work the way we want them to and when these things doen't work it might not be right to disown these things but it probably would be right to just end the existence of these things from the very beginning.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex is something that is very apparent in our culture, but it is something that has evolved and changed with how technology has advanced. The Frankenstein Complex used to be about how science could create a creature that would be more powerful than humans, either in strength or intelligence or both. Now, we don't worry so much about creatures as we do robots, which would be significantly stronger and more intelligent than the average human. This concern about robots seems to be more of a legitimate threat since we have created robots (if simplistic compared to some science fiction stories) that are smarter than the average human and others that are stronger. The Three Laws of Robotics stated by Asimov are not quite relevant to us yet, but we look at those governing laws and see how we could prevent our fears of robots taking over humanity. The problem is that the same fears that the societies in Asimov's stories had with the Laws are fears that we would have as well, that robots would be able to somehow bypass these Laws and harm humans. This is an issue that only time will tell if our fears were rational or not; we will have to wait and see if the Frankenstein Complex changes from theory to reality.
ReplyDeleteI think their are a lot of ways that the Frankenstein complex can be thought of. I think that we should question the creator more than the creation, if the creation can destroy things the creator must have thought about including that in the design or monster or whatever it may be. Their were some good qualities about "The Great Mutato" like he really loved his dad, and he buried him, he must have some good in him just like his creator must have some good. When I made my robot ad project I was really into it, and I saw that I had good ideas but I also found that my creation could defiantly be dangerous to others, and myself if I were to own one. I think The creator should be the first judged before the creation does.
ReplyDeleteThe conclusion I can draw pertaining to the Frankenstein Complex is some people have the audacity to preform unreasonable or unethical actions just because they can. As we saw in The Great Mutato, the scientist altered his own son's genetics and made him into a grotesque monstrosity because he had the means and opportunity to do so. And as we saw in my Robot Ad Project, we made a fully automated surgery robot. There is a plethora of able surgeons and plenty of jobs to be distributed, yet we settle for the cheaper, heartless, autonomic machine.
ReplyDeleteBased on all the short stories, the Robot Ad project, The Great Mutato, and individual assessment, my conclusion on the Frankenstein Complex is that just because you can create something, doesn't mean you should. And anything that fully exceeds the capability of man shouldn't be created, because it will take over and control man. Man's creations should be limited unless you have full knowledge about the creation and how to control it.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the short stories, excerpts, and Robot Ad project, the conclusion that ties with The Frankenstein Complex is the fear of what man creates. In all of these readings and clips, it shows humans questioning their creations and fearing what they created and it's flaws. In the Great Mutato, the created feared his 'monster' that he made and it relates back to "Frankenstein" and The Frankenstein Complex itself. Also in the reading EPICAC, the narrator starts to fear his poem-making robot because it now knows about love and personal feelings that I shouldn't have in the beginning.
ReplyDeleteHumans are capable of great things as well as great creations; our use of science, applied to the technology we create is able to take humans places we never imagined, in ways we could not have ever imagined. We are human, so we are naturally lazy, that is why we create things to make life simpler while still working efficiently. The problem is how much are we willing to let what we create act and do for us? What we need to fear is being almost taken over, or controlled by technology. We already see this in teenagers today, in particular with the internet as well as video games. It takes all the adventure and searching and our curiosity that we naturally have as humans and displays it all on a screen for us. The fear of technology comes from how much we want to factor ourselves out of work, society, everyday activities, or even existence.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankestein complex, I think, is something that will soon be less of a fantasy and more of an extrapolation. All our stories featured robots or monsters that strove to bhe human. Something that seemed far away. But now with things like the ATLAS Robot who knows how far off situations like the one shown in these stroies are? So what i gleaned from the Frankenstein complex unit is that perhaps we arent as far away from living it as we think.
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ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex is thought of the fear of what humans make. Humans are scared that what they make could turn on them. Nobody knows how these robots or things we make could effect our future.I wonder how our future is going to be since so many of these robots and other inventions effect our daily lives. The creator needs to make sure that we he's inventing can't effect the lives of others.
In the great mutado it reflects the prat of The Frankenstein complex to take care of your inventions. the only reason the great mutado and The Frankenstein monster are misunderstood is they were left uncared for by there creators.
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The conclusion of the Frankenstein Complex or the overall theme is that the creations never do what their creators design them to do. The creations are designed to be more human-like, but are expected to follow rules blindly like a machine. When creations don’t do their job people become scared and paranoid because of how human machines can be. The man who used EPICAC was scared of losing Pat to the machine, Mark was afraid when Eyebem was yelling at him and Fen is scared of being replaced by Mita.
After reading all these short stories in class and thinking about the Frankenstein Complex it made me think about how humans always manage to get themselves in trouble with their own inventions and creations. For example, in the story Mimicry, Fen is feeling threatened by her twin robot that her father created. And just like in real life where humans are now overcome with their technology, and cars for example are now endangering the planet.
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Based on all the stories we have read in science fiction I believe the main theme, present in all Science Fiction stories having to do with the Frankenstein complex, is the idea of creating something that may be dangerous to man kind. The thing I like most about these stories is that the monsters develop human-like emotions even if their appearance is horrendous. I think this idea has a lot to do with the saying "don't judge a book by its cover"
ReplyDeleteThe Frank Complex will come into play more and more in society as time goes on because humans will never stop inventing very technical and powerful machines. The internet for example is already out of control and uncontainable. Once you do anything online, it is tracked and saved and you cannot do anything to remove it. Whether you message someone on fb about a party, or about what happened at a party, it is out there, and there is nothing you can do to erase it.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein complex unit has been an interesting, introspective look at humanity. I think that it was an interesting opportunity to examine fear in society. I think one of the major themes throughout our course of study was the idea of “engineering out the human factor”. In most of the stories, machines were designed to replace humans in certain tasks. This eventually backfired, with the machines becoming destroyed or functioning improperly. I find that it is ironic that the machines ultimately fail in their assigned tasks. It shows that not everything we create is successful in its designed tasks and that there is still room in life for humans to be involved.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the stories, I came to the conclusion that the Frankenstein Complex has elements in daily life. We shun things we are unsure of. This way of greeting new things can only lead to trouble or fighting. The problem underlying the complex is the fact we are dominant. If something threatens that dominance most peoples instinct is to challenge that.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex is the fear of creations the creators make, not only that but also the fear of the creation being better than the creator. I think we all at some point are afraid of a machine to better than us because the creator makes the machine to be better than an actual human. I believe that soon the creations will not only take over the creators life, but also everyone else because we rely so much on the machines. By far, to me, this is the most complex theory we have learned in science fiction class this semester.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex is the concept of creating something more intelligent and powerful than humans whether it be robot or a half human hybrid, but with this Complex you can see that these creations are a reflection of the creator and as the creation grows intelligence it is almost human or a clone.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein complex is the hatred or fear of something that humans created, giving it the name Frankenstein. Though it is named the Frankenstein complex it applies to many other things including robots. Humans created the robot etc. in their image, but the robot won't always want to obey humans, or in the case of Mimicry, replace a human. The robot in Mimicry forgot what it was, because it was made to look like Fen, so the robot felt like it needed to act like Fen.
ReplyDeleteThe Frankenstein Complex deals with the inhuman objects that humans create through technological advances. I believe that this is the most prevalent subject in some ways and the least in others, that we've looked at this year. Many things that we create through technology have been beneficial to society and the quality of life, but there are also many things that have taken away from quality of life through technology due to excess stress and other things.
ReplyDeleteAll examples of the Frankenstein Complex have included concern to our advancements in technology, suggesting that we are no longer aware of the consequences of our inventions. In reality these stories are not far off the target, recent science advancements created for good have been abused and instead used for barbaric reasons, often in elations to the military. These stories also hint at the fact that humanity is becoming to reliant on technology and warns the implications of our stupidity.
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